[Valcrist]

So, I just finished Diamond Weapon.

Jenova DEATH was pretty difficult, i mean it made me return to the Glacier to search the Safety Bit! xD.

And I killed her Barely.

Carry Armor, which IMO was the hardest boss before. Here it was a hard and a Trolling battle as well. xD

But I managed myself to get through it.

I farmed Tetra Elemental Rings too and Collected many Enemy Skills after Jenova DEATH. Because I'm pretty sure that I will need Death Force more often.

What is the Term "Vanilla"?

How are you doing so far on this amazing mod? Did anyone tried to battle the Weapons?

[GalenMyra]

Vanilla means without mods, like vanilla ice is without any other flavours.

Funny how some say this mod is too easy but no one has beaten it. -_-

[Valcrist]

Well... It is hard.

But I'll conceed that things on CD2 get a lot more Easier after Jenova DEATH.

From that Point until CD3, the regular battles get easy and you have a lot more of resources at your disposal. The only boss that's really hard in between is Carry Armor and Prod Clod maybe...

So far I haven't beated Sephiroth. Mainly because I don't have the patience to go through the Super Nova Animation over and over and over because I deal little damage to him.

In Fact I was making so Little Damage to Sephi that I Found myself attacking him with Pandora's Box because it's the only skill that ignores defenses. My party was at lvl 68-74.

KOTR is so nerfed that it's Useless and not worth it's cost.

W-Magic+Ultima deals more damage and it doesn't cost a bit of MP if you combine it with MP Absorb. But 2 Ultimas deal the Same Damage as 1 Pandora's Box. Surely KOTR deals a bit more of Damage to Sephi, but you can only cast it once or twice, from 50000 to 150000 of AP to lvl up I really don't think it's worth the time to lvl KOTR considering how little damage does now.

Considering that Sephi throwed Super Nova for every 8000 of Damage that i could do to him. The battle was Eternal and I always reached a point that I screw myself by choosing the wrong action and I kill my party because the character with Mega All got confused after Supr Nova and wiped the entire party by such a stupid mistake like that, and I could fix that by equipping him with a Ribbon o combining Added Effect with Mystify. But really, I didn't even bothered to try again. Because the battle was boring, not epic or hard, just looooooong.

So now I was grinding a little to get a few stuff, level some Materias.

And I'm trying to get Cloud to learn Finishing Touch so that I can feed him with the Omnislash already! xD

Didn't try to go against the Weapons Yet, I'm currently more Frightned by Ruby's CounterAttack with Ultima, rather than anything that Emerald could do.


EDIT: Just Killed Sephiroth, It felt good, because it was a boring battle as I Stated. Now I will prepare the party and check our guests of Honor, the Weapons.

This post has been edited by Valcrist: 22 March 2012 - 12:01 PM

[artarium]

Same thing happened to me on safer sephi Valcrist. I also ran with the pandoras box strategy. It was doing the most damage out of everything I had but the battle was going on for a looooooong time. Eventually I god fed up and tried other combinations. After a few attempts I found one that worked extremely well, all I used was Tifa to deal damage. Basically I gave Tifa her ultimate weapon with 4th-cut and 2 counter attack materia. She was doing about 2.5k damage with each hit which meant 10k damage each turn and she usually got in 2-3 turns between every super nova. She was doing at least 20k each turn which is wayyyyy more than my 3k pandoras box. The path to Jenova and Jenova itself went so much faster, she was down within 15 mins and safer sephi went down within 30 mins. Also if I read correctly did you beat sephi with your ultima strategy? If you did kudos on your patience

[Ehow22]

GalenMyra, on 21 March 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

Funny how some say this mod is too easy but no one has beaten it. -_-

I got bored and forgot it amongst other games....blame the ADD I supposedly have

[Valcrist]

artarium, on 23 March 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

Same thing happened to me on safer sephi Valcrist. I also ran with the pandoras box strategy. It was doing the most damage out of everything I had but the battle was going on for a looooooong time. Eventually I god fed up and tried other combinations. After a few attempts I found one that worked extremely well, all I used was Tifa to deal damage. Basically I gave Tifa her ultimate weapon with 4th-cut and 2 counter attack materia. She was doing about 2.5k damage with each hit which meant 10k damage each turn and she usually got in 2-3 turns between every super nova. She was doing at least 20k each turn which is wayyyyy more than my 3k pandoras box. The path to Jenova and Jenova itself went so much faster, she was down within 15 mins and safer sephi went down within 30 mins. Also if I read correctly did you beat sephi with your ultima strategy? If you did kudos on your patience

No, I've beated him with Cloud's Ultimate Weapon Attacking with 4xCut and the Rest Casting Pandora's Box and Supporting as Needed.

Neat Strategy you used with Tifa, I hate her Character and her Stats so I've never really used her, not even in Vanilla. Turns out that for this battle she was useful apparently.

I must say, God Bless Frame Skipping, every game should have this function and a skip FMV's and Sequences. Because seriously, in my memory Supr Nova wasn't THAT LONG!. Seriously...

[GalenMyra]

So how much less HP does safer seph needs and which of his attacks needs to be stronger?

[Valcrist]

If there's some way to change the AI so that his use of Super Nova is Reduced or that the casting of the skill conditional. something like "only cast it if HP < 30000" just to give you an example. It would be very appreciative. This battle gets long, tedious and boring because he practically spams that skill and the animation sequence is just WAY TOO LONG considering how many times he uses it.

I really don't know how much HP reduced would be good for this battle.

The rest, his attacks are actually really good IMO. No change needed in that regard. Supr Nova with Piercing Damage would be very Punishing and interesting to see. But I don't really know if it would work properly.

[Thyrig]

The problem I found with Safer is that he has no reliable way to kill multiple characters. Super Nova does 15/16 of your current HP in damage, so can never kill you. The only dangerous part about the attack is that it causes confusion, which is easily countered by ribbons or materia. All his other attacks, aside from pale horse, kill only one character and don't come fast enough to be any problem. Pale horse is pretty laughable and as long as you always have one character with a full ATB you can just use angel whisper to full-cure + esuna / life 2 anyone who takes damage, dies, or gets statuses (I only had 2 ribbons, so pale horse would occasionally frog that one character).

Maybe nerf angel whisper? Either get rid of it completely, as it's the best restorative spell and costs a negligible amount for what it does, or make it not do quite as many things. The only downside of the spell is that it's single target, but again, Safer can't kill more than one person at a time.

[ID Bot]

Super Nova has too long of an animation to be spammed. A long fight is OK, but not when you can't even play through 70% of it watching an animation, thats just boring.

Maybe change the way the spell works so that it can actually deal damage (and not just 15/16) and presents a danger of wiping the entire party if you don't have defenses up, but make him cast it much less often.

[GalenMyra]

Making supernova do "real" damage instead of reducing hp is no problem I think, but for the frequency of how often it is cast I think we have to take in LandonRay.

[Stann]

I wonder if it would be possible to edit the animation it uses? I assume it uses some sort of compressed video. I don't know if we know anyone who has any experience in editing PSX FMVs, but it would be much better I think if you could cut out all the build up and just have the exploding sun part.

[GalenMyra]

yeah, that would be great, cus then i could use the spell as a more frequent spell that can damage the whole party. If we r lucky maybe LandonRay can fix that too...

[LandonRay]

I'll take a look at it as soon as I can, hopefully sometime this weekend.

[LandonRay]

Scene Block 231, Edit Enemy AI, Safer Sephiroth, Main

Address 0x12B Opcode 61 Argument 03BE
change Argument 03BE to 03AE

Address 0x169 Opcode 61 Argument 03AE
change Argument 03AE to 03BE

This will make him use Heartless Angel throughout the fight, but he'll only use Super Nova if his HP is less than 25%.

For Super Nova, I'd suggest the X2 damage formula and at least 100 attack power.

[Sosuko]

I'm getting pretty close to endgame in my playthrough, any idea when changes may be made to safer seph? I'd definitely prefer to take him down without watching every planet in the solar system get destroyed over, and over, and over again...

[Arek7923]

Anyone have problems with Carry Armor boss? In my playthrough he deals to my team 1500 damage from lapis laser and all are dead because they have 1100 hp :/ How can I increase magic defense without mbarrier?

[Thyrig]

Equip armor with more mdef or use accessories with more spirit to increase defenses. I was underleveled (or at least it seemed that way) for almost the entire game, so for every boss i had to remove most magic / summon materia or my characters would get OHKO until barrier and mbarrier became available. For example, each character could survive with <50 hp from one mako shot from Palmer in rocket town. However, you really should have mbarrier by this point and keep it up at all times on at least one character.

[Valcrist]

Arek7923, on 16 July 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

Anyone have problems with Carry Armor boss? In my playthrough he deals to my team 1500 damage from lapis laser and all are dead because they have 1100 hp :/ How can I increase magic defense without mbarrier?

Be sure to put all your characters backrow. Magic Barrier is a Must for this battle. Be sure to prepare some tank with on the Party, you know the drill HP Plus.

And IF possible, have Vincent with the 2nd Limit Break.

The big issue with this battle is the Arms more than anything, so be careful about that and try to finish them off first, Nuke with AoE.

Neo-Bahamut, etc.

[GalenMyra]

@Sosuko
No, I dont know when I will find time to it, but I'll try next week.