[Archael]

An interesting video that might spark some discussion on the topic:

[Vanish Mantle]

Archael, on 15 August 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

An interesting video tthat might spark some discussion on the topic:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=SCkp8CWboNE

Women want equality so here it is. You can't scream don't hit me but expect to be treated like everyone else or get special treatment when you fuck up. More women need to get a wake up slap that they have it good right now and to shut the hell up and count their blessings. i could go on but it is late and me typing is a ton of noise.

[Advent]

I wouldn't lay my hands on a woman like that unless I had to, but I won't think badly of him since the bitch deserved it.

More to the point, society says yes, but I don't think so, no.

[Stann]

Logical fallacy detected! This topic is begging the question. Is it okay to hit people?

Nope.

[Bastard Poetry]

I was once in a.. I guess there's no other term for it, other than an abusive relationship. She liked to hit, and bite (to draw blood), but it was done is a psychotically "playful" way. The physical abuse didn't bother me so much, because I was in my "suffering emo phase" right after high school, so I just sort of put up with it. The real abuse was the emotional stuff; she loved making "playfully" hurtful comments about a very serious (and at the time, very recent) traumatic event I had gone through. I still don't know why I dated her for three months..

Anyways, I eventually learned that all she wanted was for me to start fighting back. After we broke up, we ended up hanging out one night, and she started hitting me again. Since I had worked up the strength to stand up to her about the emotional abuse and break up with her, I was ready to put a stop to the physical abuse as well, so I punched her in the tit.

She liked that, and hit me back, and we beat the crap out of each other for awhile, laughing.

We made better friends than lovers.

God, I hate that bitch.

[ID Bot]

Bastard Poetry, on 16 August 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

I was once in a.. I guess there's no other term for it, other than an abusive relationship. She liked to hit, and bite (to draw blood), but it was done is a psychotically "playful" way. The physical abuse didn't bother me so much, because I was in my "suffering emo phase" right after high school, so I just sort of put up with it. The real abuse was the emotional stuff; she loved making "playfully" hurtful comments about a very serious (and at the time, very recent) traumatic event I had gone through. I still don't know why I dated her for three months..

Anyways, I eventually learned that all she wanted was for me to start fighting back. After we broke up, we ended up hanging out one night, and she started hitting me again. Since I had worked up the strength to stand up to her about the emotional abuse and break up with her, I was ready to put a stop to the physical abuse as well, so I punched her in the tit.

She liked that, and hit me back, and we beat the crap out of each other for awhile, laughing.

Sounds to me like your friend was a little screwed up, and you honestly were way too much of a pushover to have put up with that shit for even 1 week, though I can understand having emotions for someone can cause you to excuse some of their behavior flaws.

Abuse is abuse yo. Interesting story though. One of my own ex gf's smacked me across the face once, very hard, but I broke up with her shortly after that.

[TheNeuromancer85]

Stann, on 16 August 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

Logical fallacy detected! This topic is begging the question. Is it okay to hit people?

Nope.

In this case, it is correctly used, since our society has a double-standard in that regard: Women are given free reign to hit men 'who deserve it', but a man isn't allowed to retaliate or defend himself.

A tip for all IDers: If you find yourself in such a situation, DON'T PUNCH HER. Use an open palm, choke holds or an armbar, you won't wanna leave any bruises or marks.

[Ehow22]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.c...oqgewCsuk#t=45s

Seriously though....No.

[ID Bot]

TheNeuromancer85, on 16 August 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

A tip for all IDers: If you find yourself in such a situation, DON'T PUNCH HER. Use an open palm, choke holds or an armbar, you won't wanna leave any bruises or marks.

woowoow lol legal advice from da neuromancer himself!

Priceless. And yeah, makes sense. t's a tough situation for a guy to be in though, we can't really defend ourselves or face legal / jail consequences. It's a really shitty double standard.

[EpicNameBro]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Fortunately my goose likes red beans and rice, cause that shit is good for this gander too.

[ID Bot]

EpicNameBro, on 16 August 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Not sure I get what the phrase is supposed to mean in this context?

[key]

Bastard Poetry, on 16 August 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

God, I hate that bitch.

I don't know why, but this had me rolling

On topic, if someones beating your ass, of course, beat their ass right back. It's a very situational question and it'd be foolish to say it's never alright to hit someone. Generally speaking though, if you want the good guy answer: no, it's never alright to hit a woman. However, if a bitch killed your dog, ran off with all your money, and laughed at your crippling disease while poking you with a stick; I would not blame anyone for punching her dead in the face.

[Bastard Poetry]

ID Bot, on 16 August 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

Sounds to me like your friend was a little screwed up, and you honestly were way too much of a pushover to have put up with that shit for even 1 week, though I can understand having emotions for someone can cause you to excuse some of their behavior flaws.

Abuse is abuse yo. Interesting story though. One of my own ex gf's smacked me across the face once, very hard, but I broke up with her shortly after that.

I actually was a serious pushover back then. I had issues, when it came to standing up for myself with women. I don't think I overcame them until I was about 19 or 20.

[JunJunJunJordan]

If that video made me laugh, does that make me a bad person?

[EpicNameBro]

ID Bot, on 16 August 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Not sure I get what the phrase is supposed to mean in this context?

What's acceptable for one gender is acceptable for the other.

Edit: I thought this was an old idiom... is this a southernism?

[ID Bot]

EpicNameBro, on 16 August 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

What's acceptable for one gender is acceptable for the other.

Edit: I thought this was an old idiom... is this a southernism?

No, I understand the idiom, it's just that it can be taken to mean more than one thing in this case (such as two people in the relationship being into hitting or something like that).

And yeah, double standard ahoy!

[EpicNameBro]

It's intended to carry more than one meaning. I can't speak for other people's relationships and I don't condone unneeded violence, but the double standard can go to hell.

A girl shot me in the eye with a paper clip on the end of a rubber band when I was in the 6th grade, so I punched her in the face. I was then paddled for hitting a girl. She had a black eye for a week, but I couldn't see properly out of my eye for a month. I've never struck a woman since, and I think I never will, but it still pisses me off thinking about it.

If you instigate violence, I have no problem with you being on the receiving end, regardless of the presence or lack of a penis and testicles.

[ID Bot]

EpicNameBro, on 16 August 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

A girl shot me in the eye with a paper clip on the end of a rubber band when I was in the 6th grade, so I punched her in the face. I was then paddled for hitting a girl. She had a black eye for a week, but I couldn't see properly out of my eye for a month. I've never struck a woman since, and I think I never will, but it still pisses me off thinking about it.

If you instigate violence, I have no problem with you being on the receiving end, regardless of the presence or lack of a penis and testicles.

Agreed completely. If you are an instigator, you are liable to be violence'd yourself, regardless of gender. Well said btw.