[Blaise]

I have successfully completed your game, The final battle was really tough, and i had no choice but to resort in using the aura stone, even with that, it still gave me a challenge.

So now that i have beaten the game, here are my comments and suggestions, if u were to go to v7.

Overall the game was great, it really kept me on my toes, there are a few flaws, but it has nothing to do with the game, but the emulator itself. Savestates and Turbo training.

So, to help make it annoying for people to be overleveled early in the game like i was, you should prevent the endless amount of shy guys at the mushroom kingdom. OR, get rid of their weakness to thunder.

You can also switch Thunderbolt with Shocker, cause thunderbolt is a little OP at the beginning of the game. You might also want to flip the FP charge, or just increase the FP cost for it.

There NEEDS to be a boss in front of the 4th star. You should earn the star just like all the others. And a GREAT boss (and i had this in mind before i finished smithys factory, and it makes even more sense) Is you put Axem Red there, since SMRPG does not have a common rival (cause hes working with you) you cause put red there for a good storyline change, since u already made him come back. Think about that

Geno should have a Ph-Atk & Mag-Atk boost instead of the Geno boost. Since bowser has P-Atk&Def, Mallow has M-Atk&Def, and Peach has P-Def&M-Def boost.

You should decrease the amount of coins won at the Grate Guy casino, u can be charged 10 coins per 1(or 2) frog coin win, reason why i say that, is you can just savestate while doing the slots. Or you can just increase the cost for the ultimate armor accordingly.

Smithys Defense form, theres no need to have him regen his health, just increase his max health. Takes too much time, lol.

You can get stuck in the castle after beating the Shadow Queen, because u have Exor 2.0 after the warp, so i suggest warping yourself to world map after entering the door, or have a room inside that has a warp going out to the map.

The "burn" feature is great, however, it can be abused, so i suggest only having the burn last for 1 turn only on bosses (cause its good to see how much health they have left)

Mallows Revive ability should be able to recover 100% of your health when timed OR grant a P-Def/M-Def buff when revived.

Magic potion should recover 20fp as well as 255hp, but costs way more frog coins

Thats all i have so far, you did a great job at making this, and i hope this game spreads around so others can enjoy it too.

[retrogamer]

Hey guys I just got on the site, I wanted to thank Dark Kefka for making this amazing Hack. I loved this game to death when I was younger and must have beaten it probably a half dozen times (without getting all the secrets). I do remember when I first discovered the Lazy Shell completely on my own and I was so happy. The game is extremely challenging, but not so much so that it is impossible. The bosses have kicked my ass and gotten me game overs, but with patience and careful planning I have been able to beat them and it is very satisfying too when I do. The features, new items and spells and changes you have made have kept this classic game feeling very fresh and interesting to play and I am excited to see what will come next.


I am at Land's End and currently and acquired the Dark Energy using Peach to unlock it from the energy stone which I got from the Merchant in Moleville. I was reading that you were having trouble getting this item to do over 255 damage but you succeeded, it does 510 damage consistently and has unlimited usage. I think this is a problem you should address in Version 7. I have an attack that does 510 damage to all enemies on screen with absolutely draw backs, no FP used, no timing needed. Having that at my disposal makes it pointless for me to attack or use Mallow's Thunderbolt or Geno's Energy Blast for example. I am trying to avoid the temptation of using the item as I feel it breaks the game, and I personally feel like selling it but I cant bring myself to do it haha...I kinda wanna hold onto it as I may need it later.

Anyway, I am sure around Bowser's Castle/Factory end-game, this item would not feel so overpowered, but at Land's End I think it is.




There are few spells and abilities though I feel need tweaking. For Example, Peach's Holy spell cost 6FP, it only hits one enemy for pretty moderate damage. Compare this to Mallow who for 2 FP can hit all enemies for decent damage with Thunderbolt, Geno with Energy Blast for only 5FP hitting all enemies for good damage, etc. I think the Holy spell in particular is simply never worth it's cost to use, which is a shame. IMO the Holy spell should be reduced from 6 FP cost down to 2 or 3 FP so it can be used more regularly like Mario's Jump, Mallow's Thunderbolt or Geno's Beam and it would make much more sense since Peach is a magical character.


Those are the only 2 notable things I found so far when I finish the game I'll let you know more but I am loving this hack a lot!

[darkkefka]

retrogamer, on 06 September 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Hey guys I just got on the site, I wanted to thank Dark Kefka for making this amazing Hack. I loved this game to death when I was younger and must have beaten it probably a half dozen times (without getting all the secrets). I do remember when I first discovered the Lazy Shell completely on my own and I was so happy. The game is extremely challenging, but not so much so that it is impossible. The bosses have kicked my ass and gotten me game overs, but with patience and careful planning I have been able to beat them and it is very satisfying too when I do. The features, new items and spells and changes you have made have kept this classic game feeling very fresh and interesting to play and I am excited to see what will come next.


I am at Land's End and currently and acquired the Dark Energy using Peach to unlock it from the energy stone which I got from the Merchant in Moleville. I was reading that you were having trouble getting this item to do over 255 damage but you succeeded, it does 510 damage consistently and has unlimited usage. I think this is a problem you should address in Version 7. I have an attack that does 510 damage to all enemies on screen with absolutely draw backs, no FP used, no timing needed. Having that at my disposal makes it pointless for me to attack or use Mallow's Thunderbolt or Geno's Energy Blast for example. I am trying to avoid the temptation of using the item as I feel it breaks the game, and I personally feel like selling it but I cant bring myself to do it haha...I kinda wanna hold onto it as I may need it later.

Anyway, I am sure around Bowser's Castle/Factory end-game, this item would not feel so overpowered, but at Land's End I think it is.




There are few spells and abilities though I feel need tweaking. For Example, Peach's Holy spell cost 6FP, it only hits one enemy for pretty moderate damage. Compare this to Mallow who for 2 FP can hit all enemies for decent damage with Thunderbolt, Geno with Energy Blast for only 5FP hitting all enemies for good damage, etc. I think the Holy spell in particular is simply never worth it's cost to use, which is a shame. IMO the Holy spell should be reduced from 6 FP cost down to 2 or 3 FP so it can be used more regularly like Mario's Jump, Mallow's Thunderbolt or Geno's Beam and it would make much more sense since Peach is a magical character.


Those are the only 2 notable things I found so far when I finish the game I'll let you know more but I am loving this hack a lot!

Thanks. Don't count out Holy just yet. You need to increase her magic for it to be effective. Use it on certain undead foes too...

Dark enemgy is mainly for main ghame attacking for tanks. Post game it's almot useless, but maybe some people still use it.

[darkkefka]

response to Blaise........

So, to help make it annoying for people to be overleveled early in the game like i was, you should prevent the endless amount of shy guys at the mushroom kingdom. OR, get rid of their weakness to thunder.
I'll probaly remove exp all together and make them drop good items.



You can also switch Thunderbolt with Shocker, cause thunderbolt is a little OP at the beginning of the game. You might also want to flip the FP charge, or just increase the FP cost for it.
I would have, but If I do, people will accuse me of ripping off revolulution. TB isn't overpowered, mallow is.



There NEEDS to be a boss in front of the 4th star. You should earn the star just like all the others. And a GREAT boss (and i had this in mind before i finished smithys factory, and it makes even more sense) Is you put Axem Red there, since SMRPG does not have a common rival (cause hes working with you) you cause put red there for a good storyline change, since u already made him come back. Think about that
This can be arranged... ^_^

Geno should have a Ph-Atk & Mag-Atk boost instead of the Geno boost. Since bowser has P-Atk&Def, Mallow has M-Atk&Def, and Peach has P-Def&M-Def boost.
consider it done!

You should decrease the amount of coins won at the Grate Guy casino, u can be charged 10 coins per 1(or 2) frog coin win, reason why i say that, is you can just savestate while doing the slots. Or you can just increase the cost for the ultimate armor accordingly.
I'll probaly increase the cost of the armor

Smithys Defense form, theres no need to have him regen his health, just increase his max health. Takes too much time, lol.
you're not the only one who hates that form. I'll see what I can do.

You can get stuck in the castle after beating the Shadow Queen, because u have Exor 2.0 after the warp, so i suggest warping yourself to world map after entering the door, or have a room inside that has a warp going out to the map.
Win or lose, you return to the world map after Exor 2.

The "burn" feature is great, however, it can be abused, so i suggest only having the burn last for 1 turn only on bosses (cause its good to see how much health they have left)
it's impossible to atler how many turns it last..at least in this program

Mallows Revive ability should be able to recover 100% of your health when timed OR grant a P-Def/M-Def buff when revived.
believe me, I TRIED TO MAKE IT 100%. That's why its 4fp instead of 6fp like peach. Only 1 spell in the game can do that. I will continue to work on it though. Impossble to add a buff on revival.

Magic potion should recover 20fp as well as 255hp, but costs way more frog coins.
It's impossble to make an item recover HP AND FP without a full recover..otherwise I would have mad many of these. I might make a Infinite 10 FP restore though..The cost of a inventory space might balance it out.

[mike444]

1. Make thunderbolt 4FP, perfect fix

2. Make it so you can't ruin the Chester fight.. the goomba's are a good boss though keep em in there

3. bandit's should give 10 xp instead of 17.. we still need a good way to grind but giving 17 / 25 xp (based on where you fight them)makes it way too easy

4. Change leveling up a little bit - i.e. its pointless to learn magic on mallow, except for getting m. defense, because he ends up maxing it anyway. wasted a lot of levels like this. same with a bunch of others. Also, at one point Geno's HP bonus goes from +10 to +4 which didn't make much sense
********I think this is the most needed change of the hack.

5. The order of skills on the skill list is really random and out of order. Possible to fix?

6. This is stupid but there's just a typo at the speech after killing Mack. Also another typo with "You're" when getting the holy rod.

7. Getting 100 super jumps for luigi's hammer is way too hard. Everybody's just gonna save state it - Make it like 60 and keep super suit at 50. That's a realistic number to shoot for.

Not everybody is this guy man: https://www.youtube....Fw&feature=plcp

8. Star beam does too much damage for its mana cost. Should do a bit (10%) less damage, its damage is too similar to diamond saw

9. The black ghost that randomly attacks you during certain battles is way too strong. It 1-hits causing a lot of annoying unnecessary game overs before you get legendary items. Should either do less damage, or be considered a 1hitKO move and be blocked by 1hitKO armor. (This only applies where the ghost comes out of nowhere in random battles. In actual fights with shadow reaper he should stay as is).

10. Fireworks description needs to be updated.

11. Make it more clear how to get the seed / fertilizer. A lot of people will skip over this, or they'll kill 1 amayzee dayzee and not get a drop and think he doesnt drop it. (I even got confused when he didn't drop a seed until I read it in bowsers castle). I think having the gardener give a hint to it would be great.

12. Make Geno go into a rage during the Smithy fight (holy shit it's hard).

13. Blaise wrote: "Smithys Defense form, theres no need to have him regen his health, just increase his max health. Takes too much time, lol." I disagree. I think this is his hardest form, which is super challenging. But that's good. Thats great. That's exactly why people are playing this hack. Leave him how he is.

14. I think the cost of legendary armor's is perfect the way it is. I farm my frog coins from doing scale the cliff for 5 coins each, and to get a super ribbon + everybody's legendary armor I would need to do this 70 times successfully (which I plan on doing). Should be left as is IMO.

15. Instead of making super bosses drop their special items once you kill them, in the same screen that shows XP/coins, make them drop it after the battle is over, similar to when you kill jinx and a text box comes up saying what items you found. This way people won't miss certain awesome items.

16. Please make it more clear how to get the steel shell armor - clues that may or may not show up in the bowser's keep test are not enough. This is a missable item but is completely necessary to complete the entire hack.

17. Boss rush:
=Chester is too easy.
-Knife guy has too much defense (takes too long, not challenging just time-consuming).
-Anti-guy needs some source of magic damage, they're 100% physical, and fixed magical. If possible, throw a few things in that fight to spice it up a little too, gets too repetitive.
-The red axem ranger fight should be the first fight of that room. Second should be booster, then bowser, then mario IMO.
-King bomb takes too much damage from Snowy, makes it too easy. Should be reduced to 3000 or so. Also, have him debuff you every round - this will make players strategize whether they should re-buff, or just attack, etc. making the fight more interesting

18. Fix it so you can't skip the fight to get the steel shell armor

19. Give Shadow Ring +5 more armor - I still using tayce's plate over shadow ring for hard fights b/c of the armor.. Considering the hell people went through to get this it should totally trump every other option available

20. Ultra flame's burn on Starcrusher is bugged? It was burning him for 2520 when he had like 5k health left

21. LIMIT Invincibility items!! These totally break the game. I used zero because I think they're too cheap and like the challenge. You should give a total of like 3 red essences or volt shrooms (aren't they the same?). ONE Victory toast total (this items incredible) and ONE aura stone or something..

22. ...Maybe change Mallow's Holy Star to healing a fixed number like 375? I don't know about this one.. Might be best to keep it how it is because it's the only spell that heals and buffs your party.

23. Add a save box at the end of the boss rush in SQ's room

Your hack is incredible, you have brought me so much joy you rock.

[darkkefka]

if there is a verson 7. i will consider all your ideas guys.

[Advent]

While I haven't played the mod, one of my close friends whom I referred to ID (he doesn't have a forum account) has played quite a bit of it I believe; I'll ask him if he has any then post them here, if that's okay.

[mike444]

Things I completely love that you changed:

1. Super suit needs 50 jumps. This is actually obtainable and I've done it without savestates in all your hacks. Luigi hammer should be reasonable too though change to 60.

2. Mallow / Bowser going into a rage. This is the coolest fucking thing ever.

3. Adding burn to ultra flame, great.

4. Changing timed hits, makes the game totally new and more fun

5. All the new equipment and elemental weapons and armors and diversity you can have with builds.

6. Amayzee Daisy was a genius idea to include the paper mario reference. awesome. Also, having it drop seed / fertilizer is bomb.

7. The Smithy fight was such a good idea.